@webmind yes...

@webmind I'm mostly referencing to "hacker spaces" and how to bring the conversation there. Referencing to our discussion back in July...

@gaba

ah, I recall yes.

@webmind So if an "agreement" on what is expected of the space and how to frame consent in it is not the answer how do you think we should bring the discussion to this spaces?

@gaba

I still think you want an agreement within a space on what is expected/normal and what people value. Next to that I think you want to clarify some things around communication. Such as how to respond when someone informs you that you've hurt them for instance. and where you can go for support when something has happened.

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@gaba

The main things are deciding what you find important as a community, what you consider normal/expected. And then how to deal with divergences. You want to avoid dealing with strict general rules though, as that agitates and becomes inflexible while you end up dealing lots of unique cases.

This is perhaps a bit vague, but I would like to work this out more with others.

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@webmind Yes! Agree! The detail there is "avoid dealing with strict general rules". The community/space needs to have a clear idea of what they want to be able to setup this framework on what we expect from it.

@gaba would quite like reserving some time with others to work on this. Preferably not as an academic exercise though.

@webmind curious on how you are thinking about it. Ping me in irc if you want to chat a little more and see if it makes sense to collaborate across borders 😃

@webmind or send me a mail ...

@gaba I should, but I really really need to sleep now. i was exhausted hours ago, now living on adrenaline...