@Angle I agree with that, except that a hierarchy is utterly opposed to my principles as libertarian (anarcho-capitalist, nightwatchman state, ecological, non-aggression pact, etc. subgroups) and atheist (Hitchens-like, materialist, show me a god and I'll kill it subgroups). So I can't ever have a Church.

Well, sort of. I was in the Church of the SubGenius for a while, but that faded out.

**Comrade Angles** @Angle · 2018-02-26T09:07:52Z

Comrade Angles @Angle

Ecclesiology, organization Afficher plus

@mdhughes Hmm, interesting. The comments for the article were full of people arguing about whether or not hierarchy was antithetical to libertarianism. I would be curious to know your full opinions as to why, of you have the time? XD

26 fév. 2018, 09:07 · SubwayTooter · 0 · 0

**Digital Mark 🕹👾🥃** @mdhughes@cybre.space · 26 fév. 2018, 09:18

**Digital Mark 🕹👾🥃** @mdhughes@cybre.space · 26 fév. 2018, 09:18

26 fév. 2018, 09:18

Digital Mark 🕹👾🥃 @mdhughes@cybre.space

Ecclesiology, organization Afficher plus

@Angle How do you enforce orders? NAP precludes force, so excommunication just leads to "I'll make my own liberty casino!"

Put 2 libertarians in a room and they'll make 3 contradictory political systems. Rule-making gets hard in that environment.

Atheists are even less organizable, we are *against* things, not for. I hate Sam Harris's woo-mysticism bullshit (nothing against the guy on other subjects). Others hate my kind of cheerful nihilism.

**Comrade Angles** @Angle · 26 fév. 2018, 09:25

**Comrade Angles** @Angle · 26 fév. 2018, 09:25

26 fév. 2018, 09:25

Comrade Angles @Angle

Ecclesiology, organization Afficher plus

@mdhughes Hmm, fair enough I guess. I mean, for libertarians, you could probably find some method - both put up a bunch of money up front, to be surrendered on a default? I dunno. :/

As for Atheism, I'm an Atheist myself and I'm for things. I'll admit that's not a universal trait though. Next time I'm at my desktop I should post a link to my open source Atheism writings, you might find them interesting. XD

**Digital Mark 🕹👾🥃** @mdhughes@cybre.space · 26 fév. 2018, 09:30

**Digital Mark 🕹👾🥃** @mdhughes@cybre.space · 26 fév. 2018, 09:30

26 fév. 2018, 09:30

Digital Mark 🕹👾🥃 @mdhughes@cybre.space

Ecclesiology, organization Afficher plus

@Angle Sure. I might hate them, tho. ;)