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who cares about space colonies tbh why dont we focus on colonising the ocean πŸ³πŸ¬πŸŸπŸ πŸ‘πŸ™πŸšπŸŒπŸ‹

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1) no new resources, or at least not on the scale available off earth
2) actually harder than space in some ways
3) can ocean colonies be made self-sustaining? Like, could you have a submarine steel foundry? I suspect this would be *extremely* difficult.

That said, it *will* be a problem if space colonies are capitalism-based.

We should do more ocean colonization, yes... but it doesn't achieve the same goals as space colonization.

(cc: @Ulfra_Wolfe )

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@woozle @Ulfra_Wolfe this was intended as more of a jokey "i wanna hang out with some fish" toot than a serious proposal but tty for the info, interesting stuff to think about

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@roadrunner @Ulfra_Wolfe I approve of hanging out with fish, ocean colonization in general. ^.^

Even if it wasn't serious, tho, it's something I've thought about over the years... a friend of my dad's who is/was heavily involved with diving research (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_B.) often argued seriously for what you were suggesting; he saw space-ex as a waste of resources.

I'm sure he had some good reasons, too. It's... still worth serious thought.

@woozle @roadrunner @Ulfra_Wolfe on the plus side, the price of getting resources to an undersea colony is just "tie an anchor to it"

@jk @roadrunner @Ulfra_Wolfe Yes -- much easier to keep a dependent outpost supplied under the sea than in space.

@woozle @Ulfra_Wolfe i think ocean exploration is more interesting/intriguing to me personally bc of all the undiscovered species and stuff!! maybe its best we leave them alone tho rather than ruining their habitats etc

@roadrunner @Ulfra_Wolfe That's precisely why any capitalism-driven exploration / colonization becomes a problem. There's too much incentive to do things that will massively destroy what should be part of our common wealth, in pursuit of private hoarding.