@KitRedgrave so kali is mostly a custom repo of moldy ass hacker tools along with a few that are actually maintained on top of stock Debian, there might be a few minor config changes to the base config, but not much. Those moldy tools are mostly useless until you come across something that should’ve been decommissioned 20 years ago that’s actually still vulnerable to the old tool.
@packetcharmer it seems to work fine for artificial range environments that are set up to learn with, and that may entirely be the point
@KitRedgrave the LiveDVD/USB includes everything because you might not have internet access when using it, the Pi image though is just a minimal install with the repos enabled. When you install from the Live image it basically just copies the whole image over instead of redownloading/installing the deb files.
@packetcharmer that may be why they tell you to do an 'apt upgrade', and i did and it was huge
@KitRedgrave yep, that’s exactly it
@KitRedgrave so the tools that are updated are updated regularly, also the base Debian packages are pulled from unstable where they get updated often with any new patch added by the Debian maintainers
@packetcharmer sure seems like... wonder why they even push it, unless people just need a place to start