@sydneyfalk @pnathan i mean that is the powerful thing about restructuring the base, building a better society changing the material conditions: with the right base, a good and socially beneficial society is just an emergent phenomenon and does not *rely* on people particularly striving to do good or anything like that. just as under a capitalist relation of labour to the means of production, amoral actors are socially harmful by default, under a socialist or communist relation, amoral actors at least *can* be socially beneficial by default.