also when we were a teen there was a more widespread culture of "its normal for young adults to talk in depth about sex and roleplay sex and in some cases have irl sex, with minors"
we internalized a lot of nasty stuff when we were 14-17 and friends w/ 19+ people who were super into shota/loli and looking back it was.... Really Disturbing and creepy and we don't want to be that adult to any kid ever