**Vloelei Claou [HLY-2756-β]** @Oneironott@awoo.space · 03 sept. 2017, 14:08

**Vloelei Claou [HLY-2756-β]** @Oneironott@awoo.space · 03 sept. 2017, 14:08

Vloelei Claou [HLY-2756-β] @Oneironott@awoo.space

03 sept. 2017, 14:08

Vloelei Claou [HLY-2756-β] @Oneironott@awoo.space

trans discourse, dysphoria Afficher plus

Re: https://witches.town/users/SoniEx2/updates/469354

I don't feel like my parts are wrong "because folks insists they are" and the implications there is one of the most disgusting takes I've heard in a while. It's absolutely insulting to hear someone insist that all of the pain I'VE felt would just go away if people "stopped telling me that my body is wrong".

**Vloelei Claou [HLY-2756-β]** @Oneironott@awoo.space · 03 sept. 2017, 14:16

**Vloelei Claou [HLY-2756-β]** @Oneironott@awoo.space · 03 sept. 2017, 14:16

03 sept. 2017, 14:16

Vloelei Claou [HLY-2756-β] @Oneironott@awoo.space

trans discourse, dysphoria Afficher plus

This is a prime example of like

hey,
if this is your lived experience and that's how you feel about yourself that's like… fine. But don't start assuming that this is how everyone experiences things, else you say insultingly generalized things based on your own biased experience that makes me snarly as fuck.

**✨Spirit Halloween⚧Femme✨** @ikea_femme · 03 sept. 2017, 14:45

**✨Spirit Halloween⚧Femme✨** @ikea_femme · 03 sept. 2017, 14:45

03 sept. 2017, 14:45

✨Spirit Halloween⚧Femme✨ @ikea_femme

trans discourse, dysphoria Afficher plus

@Oneironott I think part of it is that gender and dysphoria is mired in epistemology. So having language makes it easier to process and explain feelings. Sometimes, I wonder if you could describe gender as the language you use to explain your relationship to your body's assigned sex, your presentation, and sense of self. Rather than some kind of psychological construct that exists deep within us.

Trans people have complicated relationships with those things, so our language gets complicated. Cis people find it confusing because they don't need much language to explain their gender. I admit this is half baked.

**✨Spirit Halloween⚧Femme✨** @ikea_femme · 2017-09-03T14:49:48Z

✨Spirit Halloween⚧Femme✨ @ikea_femme

trans discourse, dysphoria Afficher plus

@Oneironott so having a name and language for dysphoria means that while the pain is there, the expression and planning the resolution of the pain becomes more straightforward. I felt gross and unreal before I knew I was trans. And when I knew I was trans, the pain hurt more, but was in one compartment in my mind, and I better knew what to do about it.

03 sept. 2017, 14:49 · 0 · 0

**✨Spirit Halloween⚧Femme✨** @ikea_femme · 03 sept. 2017, 14:57

**✨Spirit Halloween⚧Femme✨** @ikea_femme · 03 sept. 2017, 14:57

03 sept. 2017, 14:57

✨Spirit Halloween⚧Femme✨ @ikea_femme

trans discourse, dysphoria Afficher plus

@Oneironott further, I too hate the idea there's one type of dysphoria. Or the stereotype we hate our bodies. I'm pretty neural on mine. I think there's cute and weird parts of it. And it's kept me alive and been with me to everything, so that's neat.

I'd say I have as much anger at my body as a diabetic person would. Just because the endocrinology has some problems doesn't mean I wish I could take someone else's body, like in Get Out. I might feel different if we lived in pre-hrt times, though!