polly @gracie@witches.town

@ebel got you

so it has to be a single fully bounded space?

that makes sense for the context

i guess svg renderers must use similar algo to render the different fill options

@ebel i'm curious, what makes a polygon invalid?

we build these monolithic instantiations of collective action to coalesce the struggle into something lasting, something that doesn't take all our spoons just to sustain one moment to the next

bourdieu talks about how in france when the finance ministry was waging war on social housing the biggest pocket of resistance was the housing ministry

we need to be organised because they're organised

we need big, powerful tools because they have big powerful tools

like a nationalised rail system instead of a capitalist free for all

we want the big spoons

some of us literally depend on being part of something bigger just to physically survive

like i'd be dead without the nhs

which is this vast hierarchical beurocracy, built by socialism

that it's self contained is its power and resistance to being dismantled

in fact they've been working towards dismantling it by turning it into something more federated

deterritorialisation and collectivism are orthogonal goods

imagine the people siezed control of github (to continue randomly singling them out lol)

it's tempting to think the first thing we'd do would be to federate it

but a nomadology isn't about preventing centres from taking shape

it's about facilitating lines of flight between them

@ebel @alcinnz copyleft literally depends on the software being owned
like the fsf prefer you to hand over code attribution to them because they're in a position to defend it
collectivism isn't a bad thing

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@ebel @alcinnz i don't think that follows
it's like saying we shouldn't make cloth because they make prison uniforms out of it
it's not production itself that's the issue but ownership of the means of production

https://www.theonion.com/study-reveals-lobsters-feel-pain-and-get-off-on-it-like-1822237552

@eden totally, it's a kind of affection but they see it as aggression

i feel maternal about it (but then i have issues around that)

@eden i don't think they appreciate that i'm fierce about keeping them in a job

we'd get nothing done without me shouting and swearing

@eden lol i am apparently scary

if only they knew i hide in the toilet crying

@eden they call me Malcolm Tucker at work

to be fair i have called the place an omnishambles

@eden hm, sweary Glaswegians …

@Sylvhem sleep tight

@alcinnz part of me thinks the making it easy is part of the stockholm syndrome

i mean developers who don't know how to set up a mail server, that's a regression

@alcinnz again, we did this for decades and it was fine

these for-profit valley startups brought nothing to the table but a knife and fork

@alcinnz actually it terrifies me that there's a generation of programmers who've never known a silo free world

so this stockholm syndrome takes hold

@alcinnz you put it on the internet

git has first class email support

we made things before silos