#Idea: #OpenStreetMap bot which will leave a changeset comment (in your name) on the original changeset when you modify an object, with your original comment.
Often I fix up problems people have added by mistake, twould be let them know that, so they learn #OSM
Does this exist?
@ebel One thing I like about #OSM is little social interaction. Like in my early #Wikipedia days I didn't interact with the #community and just did my own thing.
Having somebody pointing me out bad edits would certainly remove my incentive, although I am happy to learn.
I think it is a cultural thing, though. #Germans are taught to accept others correcting their mistakes and it comes natural to them.
@stefanieschulte @saper The context for this is the #OpenStreetMap project, which is a wiki map. So the idea of correcting and changing other's work is taken for granted.
Most of my mapping is done outside of Germany, because the Germans have done it all!
@saper get mapping!
@ebel ... er where is my bike
@stefanieschulte @ebel this is what sometimes annoys me in wikis - people point out, but do not fix.
@saper @ebel On http://www.pmwiki.org/wiki/PmWiki/PmWiki (I contributed a few addons and did some work on the project wiki), people usually did both (make changes and explain them).
@stefanieschulte @ebel I meant #wikipedia mostly. (which is not quite a wiki but I digress:)
@saper When even Wikipedia isn't a wiki, what is? 🤔
@saper Without all those dull rules, Wikipedia wouldn‘t be so large, though, I guess. Or as a long-term Wikipedian (can‘t find the post right now, must have been on the birdsite or even on fb) once pointed out: Successful anarchy is hard work and can even get quite boring...
@stefanieschulte I don't think it's an anarchy, and certainly not a democracy (whatever it means).
Late stage Wikipedia is certainly not a playground it once was. There are people launching "pre-Wikipedia" wikis where stuff may grow before it gets accepted. Something like Wikipedia originally was.
@saper Interestingly, Wikipedia looks a lot like a traditional encyclopedia, which is why most people respect it, but it also has those (sometimes) really weird talk pages.
@saper Thread about Wikipedia, anarchy, "organised chaos" etc. on (I know, I know...) Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/davidgerard/posts/10156168992209045 (of course, it's from people who consider Wikipedia a success)
@stefanieschulte I am afraid my personal proxy is blocking fb :)
@stefanieschulte @saper More weird than the notes written in the margins of dead tree encyclopedias in the library.
@stefanieschulte @saper I think "interesting conclusions" is the best possible outcome. :)
@stefanieschulte @saper yes #OpenStreetMap has, and requires, that you comment every edit. What I'm talking about to then messaging the original contributor(s) to tell them that I have changed what they added originally, and why. My goal is to help educate new users, because it's easy to make mistakes in #OSM.
@stefanieschulte @ebel Yes, I like the "watch" feature better.
@stefanieschulte @saper Well a new user wouldn't know about these things! #OpenStreetMap doesn't have anything like #Wikipedia's watchlist feature. You can monitor all changes in an area, but not all your changes. #OSM, unlike #WP, is lots of little changes.
@saper @stefanieschulte I am thinking of writing an #OSM watchlist feature myself actually. But there's so much data! :(
No, not at all. The edits you make in #OpenStreetMap become part of the commons, it's no longer treated as "yours". It's normal for objects to go through multiple changes, without the original editor knowing what changes has been made, unless they make an effort to monitor their contributions.
My understanding of OSM culture is that it doesn't strongly promote the sense of ownership over what is contributed, but rather, responsibility and collaboration.
@GOwin @stefanieschulte @saper There is sometimes ownerships in #OpenStreetMap. Some people really like one topic and map that a lot, and care for that type of data.
e.g. the Germans #train fans have lots of detailed docs about how to tag train signal in #OSM: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:railway%3Dsignal
I meant data "ownership" in the sense used by the other poster, not thematic mapping.
For more info, check this out: https://help.openstreetmap.org/questions/5511/how-can-i-remove-all-my-edits
@GOwin yes your totally right, it's a commons. 🙂
@ebel @stefanieschulte still the borough borders of my town are incorrect! and some recycling points are missing!!! :)