@vfrmedia @distelfliege
Yeah, I remember that well. It's a vision of cycling that is fundamentally incompatible with mass cycling.

@Reinderdijkhuis @distelfliege and I guess in NL it would be easy to take for granted that thousands of children are *already* cycling to/from school..

An interlinked issue that might affect views is the economic depression since 10 years ago has had an effect of reducing birth rates EU wide - and thus the numbers of children who would now be interested in cycling, but its important not to forget the ones who are around!

@vfrmedia @distelfliege Always remember that activists had to literally scream bloody murder to get to the point where having kids cycle safely was even possible.

@Reinderdijkhuis @distelfliege a young woman in my town got told off by a motorist for cycling with her kids to to school a couple of winters ago (mild compared to now, not with snow/ice etc) and carrying a smaller one in a bakfiets and the drivers said they would report her to cops/social services.

But it was empty threat, and even it happened there are already social workers, a policeman and *two* MPs (who have kids of their
own) on our local cycle campaign group anyway 😉 )

@Reinderdijkhuis @vfrmedia we haven't gotten to that point yet in Berlin :-/

@distelfliege @Reinderdijkhuis the rise in cycling numbers in my town has been very recent, TBH I suspect a lot of it is due to rising petrol prices, congestion and roads now being no safer in cars!

The kids I see cycling are more often from high schools in the rural area (I've seen about 2 or 3 from the town).

Possibly the case a family has had to give up 1 of 2 cars at the same time kids get to high school age and want independence, so cycling appeals to them more anyway..