@MightyPork I haven't much, but that's a perk of quiet weddings - you don't really see them, except for when you're invited :)

@megfault @MightyPork yep! and people reap the benefits without even starting a family. society should just support the kids directly. and much more so!

but we weren't discussing the (un)fairness of the stuff, we were just talking about how people would take advantage of it.. as it's already in place..

but I totally agree with you!

@trwnh @MightyPork in germany, this is done only for immigration, as far as i know, which is total racist bullshit!

@distelfliege @MightyPork in the case of spending money it's also classist if it ever gets called; the implication is that a marriage HAS to include expensive spending or else it's not real

@trwnh @MightyPork it's so absurd to call a marriage for economic reasons unreal. marriage was a purely economical institution for centuries and to make it about romance is fine and good but..

THEN it should be de-institutionalized, all benefits abolished, and it should be turned into a ritual that everone can do or not do as they please.

or it IS an economic thing, then we must discuss why people should be privileged over others just for stating they love each other forever blablaah..

no, it's just too absurd. abolish it.

@trwnh @MightyPork what's also interesting for me is, that marriage was always classist. if you weren't able to afford a place to live and found your own household you simply couldn't do it.

@MightyPork @trwnh "in the olden times" (I forgot to add)