@gannet I shouldn't take that too seriously, I know, they were just ranting about how annoying it is for motorists to be confronted with people in dark clothes in the dark. and it surely is.
but when I ride, I meet that attitude too often: "I hava a car, I'm stronger, I'll show this annoying cyclist/pedestrian their place!" and that makes it so scary.
@distelfliege I hope so. Thank you.