@candle here http://vocaroo.com/i/s0EQS1jFFOM6
(don't mind my horrible voice)

@sempervirenx ahhh thank you!

@candle you're welcome!

(i suck at explain pronounciations and phonetics so I thought hearing it might work instead)

@sempervirenx i think it's hard to anyone to explain pronounication unless they have the perfect english word the sound appear in

@candle (if you have other stuff you want me to pronounce, go ahead) (now or later, i don't mind)

@sempervirenx (thx 💜)

@candle Those two use different sounds. The first one uses the "eu" sound like in "le". The second one uses a sound close to "è" (kind of like the a in anything)

@candle j'ai sounds like j-ay and je sounds like j-uh (both without the punchy sound in j's start)

@candle in "je", the "e" sounds like the "u" in "mushroom". In "j'ai", the "ai" is pronounced like the "e" in "Jerry". Both "j" are pronounced the same, I don't have a good english example for this one.

@vhf i already have the j down at least - thanks for the explanation, it's good!

@candle Good! Then next time, it'll be as simple as remembering 'e' and 'é'. "Je" rhymes with 'e', "J'ai" rhymes with 'é'. That's the simplest example one could come up with using french writing.

A good trick is that conjugated verbs ending in 'ai' are always 'é' whereas all conjugated verbs ending in 'ais' are 'è'. 'e' usually stays 'e' when it's final and not silent.

@candle
"je" has a schwa vowel: "zhuh"; while "j'ai" is with an "ay" or canadian "eh" vowel.

e on its own at the end of a word: uhhhh
es at the end of a word: ayyy

"Je l'ai mangé" (I have eaten it) and "je les mangeais" (I was eating them) sound very very very similar.

@mdcclv @candle Not quite, because "l'ai" and "les" have the same difference: "l'ai" is open è, "les" is closed "é". :<

@candle By order of bass/treble : je; j’ai; j’é

@candle je sound like the a in share or chair, kinda, while j'ai sound like the e in pre- or prey (without the ending y)

@Efi ahh thank u

@candle Zhuh vs Zhaye

@Nasiviru i have to look it up every time haha

@candle :D ok so "je" has this vowel: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voyelle_moyenne_centrale and "j'ai" has that one: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voyelle_mi-ouverte_ant%C3%A9rieure_non_arrondie (just click on the sound in the right column of the page...)

@Nasiviru ah, thansk!

@candle hum sorry i gave you the french version of the wikipedia pages...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mid_central_vowel

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open-mid_front_unrounded_vowel