Apparently students used to learn times tables up to 20? I had to do up to 12.
@Elizafox i didnt learn any if it
i thought it was a mostly useless effort then and still agree
@CobaltVelvet You also probably had calculators
We weren't allowed to use them
@Elizafox nah not at this time
i knew two, five and ten and a few more higher but that's all
i know bits of the rest now due to calculating it often
learning tables is like prefilling a cache: why the fuck would anyone requires children to answer very quickly to mathematics in the first place
thus, it's a pointless effort invented by delusional people to bother the next generation
@CobaltVelvet @Elizafox Plus you do end up "filling the cache" anyway, since you just learn what the result of a*b is for common (a, b) by doing it a few times 🤔
@elomatreb @Elizafox yeah my point exactly
if it's an important value you'll know in withing years of doing more useful stuff
if not then there was no use of learning it anyway and you can easily compute it by knowing close values
@CobaltVelvet @elomatreb @Elizafox
> easily compute it by knowing close values
this is how I survived all math
@sydneyfalk @elomatreb @Elizafox i think that's exactly the point of math
teachers not saying that as the first thing about multiplication tables don't get math and won't be able to teach math to many people
@sydneyfalk @elomatreb @CobaltVelvet American maths education is dumb and bad
who knew
@Elizafox @CobaltVelvet @elomatreb @sydneyfalk My understanding is that estimation is taught in elementary some more recently. But some of the related materials I've seen were tests where the teacher took points off because the kid estimated "wrong" and ended up with the exact correct answer. It was something like they expected the kids to estimate to the nearest 10s and the student estimated to the nearest 5 or something.
@benhamill @Elizafox @elomatreb @sydneyfalk this is so awful
i'd fire a teacher for this