@candle I see what you're saying. I don't speak a second language well, but my understanding is that English (speakers?) is pretty forgiving such that it's much easier to learn English kinda meh and still be understood and then WAY hard to learn English like well. Compared to, say, French.

So my attitude about "I don't really worry about whether shit is grammatical to my listener. They'll figure it the hell out," might not apply to French.