@alyx I have no solution here but I guess it's not surprising given how objectifying most non-porn anime stuff tend to be.

We're talking about the fandom where "waifu" is a common/accepted concept, and since porn is rarely progressive already... :/

@Eramdam it's like that metaphor where fish have no idea they're swimming because being underwater is the totality of their experience / reality

once in a while i manage to poke my head above water, see some stars, and then feel bad and realize what a sorry state human culture is in when i'm dragged back under

there's your mixed metaphor for the day

@alyx That's...very fitting to basically anime shit haha

@alyx Like, I read my BirdSite TL/AnimeFeminist and I see Good Ppl talking about anime in a respectful and well-thought way, and then at some point I come accross stuff like r/anime and I loose faith in all of this. Rinse and repeat.

reading this one might be tempted to think this is my first trip around the red light district but no, i'm a longtime perv and am totally jaded about most of the weird fetishes the internet promulgates

just something about this ultra-concentrated dose of male gaze via image bot that struck me / made me unhappy

@alyx I have this exact frustration quite often. The girls I've liked offline have had a variety of shapes and sizes, I wish porn girls could too.

There's a list of things that's unacceptable to have in male gaze porn - visible body hair, visible muscles, visible fat, visible cellulite, visible size (what is with this - outside of giantess porn girls have to be strictly smaller than their male counterparts (if it's het, but honestly even lesbian stuff tends to feature tiny ladies))

@AlexandriaYandere thank you. i like your last sentence in particular, "degrading in the least fun ways"

(human sexuality is so weird and complicated, hehe)

interesting you say "it's getting to the point" suggesting that you're noticing something intensifying of late

i'm just noticing the psychic toll it takes to see endless depictions of girls (ofc girls, this is anime) and women degraded and used like objects. i don't mean to kink-shame at all. it's just that the depictions are incred monotonous and crude and reflect so little of the full (female!!!) spectrum of human experience/sexuality

@alyx Well it's been intensifying lately for me, I don't know if it's been ramping up or if I've just been noticing it more and more and losing what resistance to it I might have. I use gelbooru and my list of negative tags/antitags is a mile long and expands daily as people add new tags for new degrading and awful things. (Especially my actual ptsd trigger, r*pe. There are like new tags for that every other weekend it feels.)

And definitely yeah, browsing a site like that without antitags is mentally draining and demoralizing at best or triggering and panic attack causing at worst.