@Ulfra_Wolfe I just listened to Ursula saying those same words: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Et9Nf-rsALk

@sydneyfalk Haaah, that's fair.

@Ulfra_Wolfe

(I mean there's a wealth of examples of things real life rich people do that are so abhorrent that fictional rich people doing them are "irredeemable" -- the fictional moral event horizon is far smaller than the real life one -- in real life, rich people can do whatever they like without consequence, all the time)

@Ulfra_Wolfe

I mean, there's a rich president who's very likely actually a multiple sexual assaulter and probably also a rapist

and he's not "really" rich, he's rich in the sense that he controls things, monetarily he's a shit businessman but (at least was) a world-class kingmaker and manipulator

if Sergey Brin announced he was going to murder people randomly starting tomorrow, nobody would actually do anything about it, they might just high-five him)

@sydneyfalk Fucking hell, I really don't have to go far to depict the absolute worst. Of hypocrisy, as well.

@Ulfra_Wolfe

yeah :(

"reality is stranger than fiction" has never been more applicable to reality, in the sense that IRL people will accept anything but in fiction if you had a rapist murderer presidential candidate half-ass his way into office due to widespread voter manipulation/gerrymandering/fraud/etc., that'd be "unrealistic"

reality's not just unrealistic now, it's jumped the fucking shark

@sydneyfalk @Ulfra_Wolfe I'm surprised it isn't an episode of Black Mirror, actually...