Taking a quick survey for a "friendly discussion" elsewhere:
If modern masculinity remained exactly the same, except that it totally abandoned the elements of degradation of women, bullying, abuse, and exploitation...
...and focused on, say, Doing Bold Physical Things Outdoors With Other Manly People, Cultivating A Masterful And Gentlemanly Mustachio, and Pugilizing Consensually With Other Likely Young Lads...
...would you be okay with it and drop all grievances against it?
@zebratron2084 HELL YES. :D
I love those aspects of masculinity and strive to demonstrate some of them as part of my own identity. ^^
@mawr @zebratron2084 I'd love to do outdoorsy stuff with you
@mawr @Ulfra_Wolfe Me too, I've always wanted to go on a proper hike in the PNW!
@mawr @zebratron2084 Just keep in mind I might need some babying. VERY out of shape.
@mawr @Ulfra_Wolfe @zebratron2084 I almost feel like this is something I could enjoy again, now that I've got a job that keeps me in better shape, but on the other hand, now that I have such a job, I want to spend my off hours sitting or lying down :p
@kara_dreamer @Ulfra_Wolfe @zebratron2084 I'm totally down for a nice easy hike somewhere :D :D
@mawr @kara_dreamer @zebratron2084 I should show you the local "marsh".
@mawr @Ulfra_Wolfe @zebratron2084 Carkeek Park is fairly easy. Discovery Park takes a bit more endurance because of the steepness of the bluffs
@kara_dreamer @zebratron2084 @mawr The BPA Trail is what's near my place. It's been common to take people down here.
@mawr @zebratron2084 @kara_dreamer ...But at the same time, I want something more wild, myself.
@Ulfra_Wolfe @zebratron2084 @kara_dreamer I know a great low impact hiking trail at Mt. Rainier National Park :3
@mawr @Ulfra_Wolfe @zebratron2084 @kara_dreamer Mount Rainer is good hiking. Count me in if you go sometime!
@Ulfra_Wolfe @zebratron2084 I'm down! :D