@gravezwave interesting premise, but they don't seem to go into that. (there's a board game with this concept... I think it was called Illuminati or something?)

@gravezwave i decided to skip a few episodes and click on their episode about Soviet UFO "Incidents"

@TipsyTentacle tbh the actual state of the Soviet space program and what happened to some of their cosmonauts is way more disturbing than any alien stuff people might come up with

@gravezwave Oh? I don't know much about their space programme, tbh.

@TipsyTentacle it's difficult to get confirmation on some of the things due to the nature of the USSR but they were generally underfunded and working with outdated/unsafe equipment. several of their test pilots and such died and I believe due to the classified circumstances it took a long time for families to get closure or compensation, if they got any.

@gravezwave eh... just the usual "ufo over military bases" and "secret soviet research bases" and... no mention of secret soviet shadow government. ):

OH BOY IT'S THE ANCIENT ALIENS EPISODE
show: the ancient civilizations in egypt and sumeria arose from nowhere to build massive pyramids and temples, and epic achievements even with our technology. Was it human ingenuity or did they receive help from powers beyond earth?
moi: sounds racist but okay

show: Mesopotamia may be called the cradle of civilization... BUT IT WASN'T FOUNDED BY HUMANS. Ancient cravings show winged beings, flame chariots, and flying discs.
me: k

ohmyfuckinggosh
show: they developed agriculture and writing and architecture. but did they achieve this on their own?
me: *SCREAMING*

show: aliens came to earth to harvest gold. also they're from a hidden planet in our solar system!!
me: *screaming and crying invisible gold tears*

@TipsyTentacle Is this true, @Thaminga ?

@Storyteller @TipsyTentacle https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_V_2BFWahc

really annoyed at this constant assertion that humans couldn't have good astronomy skills or geometric skills or construction skills...

@TipsyTentacle racist aliens in your area looking for theories

show: the pyramids were a giant soundwave generator or a power plant. Or even a magnetic shield generator to protect Earth.
me: *screaming*

show: maybe humans weren't the first alien experiment at intelligent life. because the Sphinx is possibly built before the pyramids!!
me: what the fuck humanity is hella old. the sphinx being extra old doesn't mean there was another... URGH

show: it was... the ATLANTIS PEOPLE WHO BUILT THE SPHINX
me: *SCREAMING UNDERWATER*

@TipsyTentacle As if we need to ascribe MORE strengths to the fictional Atlanteans. I mean, jeez, Nazi ideology was all about their damn supposed racial superiority from being descendants of Atlantis.

@TipsyTentacle Anyways, the Greeks kicked their ass. So much for superiority.

@Storyteller Atlantis is such a weird thing to claim descent from. :/

@TipsyTentacle Not only that, it's based on this weird idea that "Aryan" was making reference to Atlantis, and not actual peoples we know and measure today that were also PoC! Partly from the Theosophical movement founded by Helena Blavatsky and Henry Olcott.

Though even Blavatsky described them as "varying from dark brown, almost black, red-brown-yellow, down the whitest creamy color, yet of one and the same stock"

@TipsyTentacle I mean, fuck, they couldn't get their own pseudo-science right.

@TipsyTentacle are the pyramids so boring that we have to have a million different uses for them? Like they are fucking marvels of human engineering and people are like "they must be some sort of ancient tech!!!!"

@TipsyTentacle wait, that's literally the plot of "Battlefield: Earth" isn't it

@TipsyTentacle This is what I find the most reprehensible part of these conspiracy theories -- denigrating ancient cultures and human accomplishment. There's little question we created supersonic aircraft, but the idea of planting things, inscribing messages on things, and erecting things is so hard for them to grasp?

@TipsyTentacle Granted, there's some VERY GOOD questions about *how* they accomplished much of it -- for instance, how they transported all that material in Egypt. Even recreating the techniques today using water and human labor didn't pan out in the documentary I saw.

Is it a mystery? Nah, I think they were onto the methods; rammed earth slopes to the pyramids and lubricated paths with strong labor.

@TipsyTentacle It's not hard. It's just labor intensive and requires the will to create it.