@MightyPork why only permanent, though?

@ThatVeryQuinn well isn't it otherwise just a tool basically? cyborg should have augmented body, no?

@MightyPork I believe there is a movement within the transhumanist circles to understand cyborgs as people who use tools to augment their daily lives. Idk, I sort of think that's a more apt description, since under the present definition it excludes hearing aids and other assistive technologies people use day to day.

@ThatVeryQuinn hmm could be, i'm not really in the loop very much

but won't then a pirate hook make the pirate a cyborg too?

@MightyPork I getcha, and yeah pretty much, haha.

I think the idea is that humans are naturally drawn to augmenting ourselves using tools, ergo cyborg is a natural state of being for us. But then I'm probably butchering this.

@ThatVeryQuinn How about we just recognize "cyborg" as a nonbinary term? e.g. someone who uses a computer for most of their social interaction (<raises hand>) is one form of cyborg; someone with an artificial organ is another form. ...and we can pick various metrics by which to rate degrees of "cyborgness", but no particular metric is "the right one".

@woozle I can follow that, most definitely!