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@vi I was thinking you didn't like it?
@Sylvhem I can get behind yelling AAAHHH! about it though
@vi He, he ^^. I'm curious though. Why don't you like it?
@Sylvhem mostly I'm just tired of moffat, I'm looking forward to what someone else can do with it
Just lots of little things, eg. the doctor does a grandiose speech, those can be good, but not when they're used to tell not show, like the doctor explaining how he reprogrammed the cybermen. And scenes that were drawn out or had the pacing wrong (bill not realising she was cyberman, but she looked in a mirror straight away)
and the ending annoyed me, because I wanted to like that heather showed up - I was cheering - but then she did a bunch of stuff that hadn't been previously established she could do, and it just became a big deus ex machina
@vi Wow, I'm happy to read that because we seem to think the *exact* same thing about Moffat :O. Right now, it's a bit late for me to talk about all this stuff, especially in English, but if you don't mind, I will be really to talk with you about it an other day :3. I really need to talk to someone who dislike Moffat work as much as I do.
Frankly, I really loved this episode but it was *despite* all of that. But I have to admit I almost grimaced when Bill asked « What is a Cybermen ? ». The Doctor stopped a big Cybermen invasion on Earth only two years ago 🤦.
@Sylvhem also it bugs me that they seemed to be setting up for Bill to have to deal with a regeneration but then had no payoff for it; the Doctor started doing the fake-out regeneration in front of her and he mentioned regenerating but didn't explain when she queried it, but now Bill's gone and he's going to regenerate without her there. Like what was the point.
@Sylvhem Maybe this episode could have stood well on its own, but it just seemed like an inferior version of things Moffat had done before.
The two Masters together should have been great, but I didn't think it was as good as Ten and Eleven being together in "The Day of the Doctor".
One showing up at the end wasn't as good as the introduction of the War Doctor at the end of "The Name of the Doctor" (which is one of my favourite scenes).
Bill's ending was very similar to Clara's ending (which I didn't like very much anyway). (Although I am glad Bill and Heather got a somewhat happy ending).