why do I find rust so hard to learn C++ I picked up well enough in a few days, Java 12hrs, Python and JS were pretty quick too...eugh Haskell and Rust are something I've tried many times and failed

@LottieVixen the mindset is pretty different (especially for haskell which is a bit riduclously complicated) so, in addition to a new language, you need to learn a new way of programming :/ (c++/java/python/js are all in the same kind of programming way)

@bram @LottieVixen It's a new way of thinking alright but I don't agree it's ridiculously complicated. Some concepts popular in haskell are, but they don't belong to haskell. You can have monads in C++. Promises in JS are just a particular monad.

@LottieVixen @bram
My two cents but the most difficult to understand for me at first was actually how *simple* functional programming was. Seriously, it can be all very impressioning and first and it might sound like there's «something big» to get because you can hear people boasting about their superior intellect for digging functional programming but actually just stick to what you read, it's very powerful but based on very few simple premises. Do you know about lambda-calculus ?