@c8rz ...fucking Combichrist. Yeah the goth and rivethead communities have a weird pseudo-federated nature. Really it's a lot like cliques generally, or can be more deep rooted and significant. The separations are kinda hard to tell apart from the outside looking in, but for example like, the whole Futurepop camp is entirely separate from the EBM camp despite being the same in every way except one group doesn't like pop music being mixed with industrial dance. It's already dance music, like.. It's not sacred. Come on cyberguys...