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Maggie @Maenad

Thinking of starting a meetup group for hangouts and (tabletop) games

I'd probably GM

is there a good way to flag "queer people and women more than welcome"???

@Maenad WHAT YOU DONT GET TO JUST CALL GM LIKE THAT

@karolat if someone else expressed a strong desire to GM I'd probably yield to them but honestly I think GMs are rarer than players and I'd want to be welcoming to new players

@Maenad oh okay i don't want GM or anything just making sure things stay democratic ;D

mostly thinking "the reason I haven't joined one of the existing ones is because I don't feel comfortable entering unfamiliar gaming spaces because of boobs and I'd like to flag that this is a group for people like me"

@Maenad Though I definitely understand the reasons you want to flag your group for a specific community, I guess offhand I don't see the problem in just saying that?

E.g. "This is a Queer-oriented gaming/social group" or the like.

Obvs tailor that to whatever specific subset of Queer you're comfortable with? (Or is that the sticking point, how to delineate it?)

@Qwyrdo ehhh I'm not wanting to make it a group for like "genderqueer pan people" or anything super specific - I just want it to be clearly "if you're uncomfortable in other gaming spaces and want to play, this is the group for you"

@Maenad Which sounds pretty spot on to me, TBH?

Just slip in "because of your Queerness" or the like, right before "and want to play"? Boom, you've ID'd the problem you want to address, and invited your target audience. ∑:ᴈ

@Qwyrdo I guess I just don't specifically want to call out queerness at all

I'm happy with a rainbow flag but honestly I often feel like a pretender in queer spaces (I KNOW that I'm not) because of my current relationship, and I think I would feel baited if I joined a queer group and realized that the person in charge was femme with a male partner.

@Maenad Ahh, OK; I think I ~sort~ of understand now? But, unfortunately, don't offhand have a good way to soft-signal queerness, so to speak. ∑:s

@Qwyrdo @Maenad Maybe you want there phrase "underrepresented groups"? Or just "tired of typical dude-centric gaming culture" or something. I'm just brain storming, so maybe both those ideas are bad.

@Qwyrdo yeah I want a group that is default queer/femme, not explicitly only queer/femme

as this'll be a group of 4-6 people it's not hard to sway demographics if there is at least one other interested queer/femme nerd, but yeah

@Maenad I mean, why not just say exactly what you just said?

@Maenad I think you just say, “queer people & women more than welcome.” It will self-select. If any haters show up, they’ll self-indentify quickly.

@tbeckett mmm I actually like this solution the best - it's the kind of phrasing I am looking for, and it parallels nicely with "beginners welcome"

I'll probably also use the word "inclusive" somewhere.