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@Trev I never had .. my friend just sent me a copy :)

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@benhamill @witchfynder_finder there's a few more of them if you keep trawling down the series

@witchfynder_finder @benhamill I've read them a million times and they still make me laugh

@witchfynder_finder @benhamill have you guys seen this series? this comic is actually quite relevant to this discussion

existentialcomics.com/comic/23

@witchfynder_finder @benhamill it's depressing to realize that I cant think of really any fantasy lit that tries to engage with these kind of issues other than Orcs, which as you say is fatally flawed. it seems like everyone who tries to do more serious things in fantasy just rejects this whole kind of Tolkein/D&D style setting from the very beginning. the only other obvious case I can think of which has individuals overcoming presets are those Drizzt books in pure D&D setting but I certainly wouldnt hold those up as an example of anything intersting here ... trading one boring preset for another

@witchfynder_finder @benhamill I remember reading them ages ago and I also found that I immediately got rid of the books after, so I guess I also wasnt too happy with them for whatever reason. I pretty much only remember the main concept which I did like.

@benhamill @witchfynder_finder oh that's interesting. do they do the same for "evil" races? bc one of the issues with D&D is this setting races as evil so they can be cannon fodder. have you seen this series called Orcs (cant remember the author) which sets the main characters as orcs and the humans, elves, etc as a bunch of imperialist racists? it's quite illuminating actually (though I cant remember how good they actually were as novels). there's also work on this in academic philosophy I believe

@witchfynder_finder totally, it's all pretty skeletal in a way despite their having spilled a lot of ink .. but actually I might like that? mostly bc I have kind of strong feelings about how some of this stuff *should* be implemented and what it *should* look like, and the more the sources diverge from that the more work you have to do to weed out the bad from the good ...

@witchfynder_finder they really do, I agree. the stuff in the books is all sketched a little too broadly probably so people who dont care about stuff like this can just run the presets and kill a bunch of creatures w/o any guilt feelings lol

@gravezwave that's not *too* far off now I guess ... :)

@witchfynder_finder this seems totally reasonable. also it's even maybe what the designers had in mind, just that it's implemented in a way that makes the entire races look like a single society. so your solution is like a generalization of what they've done? (a generous reading of their intent)