Comrade Angles @Angle@witches.town

@shellkr I'm still skeptical on this helping, though. :/

@shellkr Maybe I'm being too pessimistic? I don't think we have good data on this yet, so it's hard to be sure. But I would put my money on a UBI not helping, or not helping very much. Anyway, our fundamental disagreement seems to be on the consequences of an UBI, so we should probably focus our discussion there. Will the prices just increase to compensate? Or will it actually help people? I suppose one thing it does is allow people to move out of cities - if you quit your job and move somewhere real cheap and just live off the UBI, you might come out wealthier over all. :/

@shellkr With it, you'll still be trapped trying to get bread on the table. Like, as I said, the prices will just go up. You'll be in exactly the same situation as before, except you spent all this effort fighting for something that won;t help you.

@shellkr If you want my thoughts on a workable solution, first, we need to be able to communicate and coordinate freely and on a large enough scale. That's the first battle, and without it, I don't see us being able to win anything. :/

@shellkr Even the money for the UBI will end up coming, not from the elites, but from the working and middle class, thereby turning even them against the idea. The same thing we've seen with welfare and basically every other public benefit project for the last few decades. :/

@shellkr You're assuming you can get one, have it be enough to live off of, and do so without burning all your political capital and putting yourself in an unwinnable position. I'm not confident any of those things are true. As I said, I think that if you do get one, it'll never be enough to live off of - all the prices will just go up, so you'll still need a job, your political opponents will use this as a chance to attack and discredit you and everything you believe in, and you won't have made any progress tackling the real problem, the inequality of wealth and power.

@jamey @varx Hmm. Well, the visbility: hudden works, but it causes the page to lag massively when you try and drag it around, which isn't good. :/

@varx @jamey Hmm. I can try it, but I'm not sure that'll work very well? Honestly I'm thinking of just assuming that every post is maximum size, and working from there. :/

@jamey I was actually thinking of caching /number of characters displayed/ server side, and working with that. That has much the same problem though... :/

@shellkr Eh, the trouble with UBI is that all the political capital spent getting it is political capital not spent /actually solving the problem/. Like, the way I see this playing out, is we spend all our effort campaigning for UBI, and we get it - but never enough to truly relax, and they're always trying to roll it back. So we have a constant struggle just to survive, while they slowly erode our position, until we lose. Finally and irrevocably. I don;t know what that'll look like, but I'm willing to bet it won't be pretty. :/

@jamey I want to calculate whether or not two previews will overlap, and then hide one one of them. :/

@jamey I've already got placing down, you can see it in action. The only problem is that they overlap sometimes. :/

https://agora-2866.nodechef.com/forum

@jamey Because you might need to do that for dozens or maybe hundreds of posts in a screen, and rendering them all first only to hide most of them is unmanageable. Though for that matter, I'm probably still gonna need to use some other tricks to cut down on the processing taken up - this feature is getting a little out of hand, Maybe I should find some other way of cutting things down to size? :/

I'm leaning towards compute once, as I have to deal with bbcode (Or maybe later markdown) and that adds a fair bit more processing. :/

Hey all, can I get some coding advice? I'm looking at making the previews for my Agora forum play nice with each other. That is to say, the little preview boxes that show up over posts as you zoom in? I want to make sure they never overlap. But I can;t measure their size directly without drawing them first, which isn't practical. So I need to figure out how big they're gonna be before hand. Should I try and compute that on the spot? Or compute it once and save it to the database? :/

The project in question, for those who aren't familiar: https://agora-2866.nodechef.com/forum

@esp Hugpets! :P

@MightyPork @lanodan THE SPINNY TOOT! :0

Ah, yes,. I remember... XD

@lanodan Hmm, maybe that all got cut then. I remember @bootsy was doing some stuff with HTML, maybe ask her? :/

@lanodan spans, maybe? :/