**Comrade Angles** @Angle · 01 mar. 2018, 18:48

**Comrade Angles** @Angle · 01 mar. 2018, 18:48

Comrade Angles @Angle

01 mar. 2018, 18:48

Is the nature of life fundamentally exploitative? Think about it. Living requires eating. It requires the consumption of resources. More over, it usually involves expansion and reproduction, increasing ones consumption of resources to the physical limit.

**Comrade Angles** @Angle · 2018-03-01T18:48:28Z

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If bacteria could build spaceships, they would colonize every planet they could get their hands on, every star system they could see. They would be unlikely to care about the welfare of the natives, or about what they would be destroying in the process. They would take and take, grow and grow, until they no longer could, if for no other reason than there was nothing left to take. Most life would. The only life that thinks twice about such things is us, and we're fuckin weirdos. :/

01 mar. 2018, 18:48 · SubwayTooter · 2 · 4

**&Kalmia** @IrisKalmia@cybre.space · 01 mar. 2018, 18:49

**&Kalmia** @IrisKalmia@cybre.space · 01 mar. 2018, 18:49

01 mar. 2018, 18:49

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@Angle I'm convinced that from nature's perspective multicellular life is more or less a weird accident that it mostly views as a mistake to try abd destroy every so often

**Comrade Angles** @Angle · 01 mar. 2018, 18:50

**Comrade Angles** @Angle · 01 mar. 2018, 18:50

01 mar. 2018, 18:50

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@IrisKalmia Eh, I dunno. If anything, I'd say it views it as a very fortunate mistake to run with as far as possible and see where it goes. :/

**The Embodiment of RED** @beefasil@nfg.zone · 01 mar. 2018, 18:51

**The Embodiment of RED** @beefasil@nfg.zone · 01 mar. 2018, 18:51

01 mar. 2018, 18:51

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@Angle
The universe is full of life. Life in the universe functions on two axioms: 1. Life's goal is to survive, and 2. Resources are finite. Like hunters in a dark forest, life can never be certain of alien life's true intentions. The extreme distance between stars creates an insurmountable "chain of suspicion" where any two civilizations cannot communicate well enough to relieve mistrust, making conflict inevitable. (1)

**The Embodiment of RED** @beefasil@nfg.zone · 01 mar. 2018, 18:51

**The Embodiment of RED** @beefasil@nfg.zone · 01 mar. 2018, 18:51

01 mar. 2018, 18:51

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@Angle
Therefore, it is in every civilization's best interest to preemptively strike and destroy any developing civilization before it can become a threat, but without revealing their own location, thus solving the Fermi paradox.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dark_Forest

(2)

**Paragate** @Paragate · 01 mar. 2018, 19:02

**Paragate** @Paragate · 01 mar. 2018, 19:02

01 mar. 2018, 19:02

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@Angle all moral discrimination is a dualism of the conscious mind. Only sentient agents are blessed/cursed with thinking things might be other than they are.

I'm not quite sure how something can be described as exploitative with out the involvement of a sentient agent.

**𝔖𝔥𝜉𝔏𝔏𝔎𝔯** @shellkr@mstdn.io · 01 mar. 2018, 19:21

**𝔖𝔥𝜉𝔏𝔏𝔎𝔯** @shellkr@mstdn.io · 01 mar. 2018, 19:21

01 mar. 2018, 19:21

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@Angle I would say.. to a degree, yes. Most life is not self aware as we though...

A bacteria or for that matter a virus or even protozoans.. All lifeforms works kinda through Maslow's hierarchy of needs. Most will never leave the first step. If our needs never are fulfilled we will be equally "exploitative" until we are. Biology and environment play a big part in us too.

Also.. don't forget about mushrooms and their ability to live in symbiosis. ;)

**kit 🦊🎲** @wlonk@dice.camp · 01 mar. 2018, 20:55

**kit 🦊🎲** @wlonk@dice.camp · 01 mar. 2018, 20:55

01 mar. 2018, 20:55

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@Angle I'm inclined to Sir Terry's interpretation: https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/66591-all-right-said-susan-i-m-not-stupid-you-re-saying-humans