"Learn how to code" is the new "if you just get a degree you will have a good job"

If everyone takes that advice like everyone took the college advice you will have a shitload of coders and not enough jobs

That will force the wages of coders down to the point you will be begging for microsoft to take your code for free just to have your name out there.

Its what happened to writing and its part of why its hard to get a paid gig, too many writers willing to work for free.

So "learn how to code" is bad advice, Jobs are going away and they are never coming back we need to address this.

We need a universal dividend on all of the automated labor on earth paid out to all of its citizens

@Laurelai Eh... I'm not really sold on basic income. My concern is thats it's a bandaid, on a problem where we need much more than just a band-aid. Like, suppose we pass basic income. And it's good enough to work for everyone. What then?

Well, then we get a decade or so where people think the problem's solved, while wealth and power continue to accumulate into ever fewer hands, until the owners of said wealth and power decide they really don't need the rest of us anymore. What then? :/

@Angle I honestly think thats bad logic because people are starving and dying of shit they dont need to be right now, and its much harder to organize for a revolutionary movement when your comrades are starving sick and disconnected.

@Laurelai Hmm, thats a good point. Band aids and temporary solutions do have their place. I just don't want people to go thinking this is all that needs to be done, when it really isn't. :/

@Angle @Laurelai In all seriousness, while I'm 100% for universal basic income, I know it will be attacked by capitalists and only work if it's one step in a continuing program pushing equality forward.

@cute_weeds @Laurelai Another point I've seen made is that there are too many ways to bleed money out of people - raising rents, raising prices, etc, etc. We might be better off just offering free services - free food, free transportation, etc? :/

@Angle @cute_weeds @Laurelai

...and ask people to contribute back reasonable amounts of their time / expertise / money-if-they-start-to-do-better / other-resources, counting on their innate goodness -- which is apparently not just underrated but actively denied by capitalist propaganda.

@woozle @cute_weeds @Laurelai Mmm, I generally agree? I'm leery about relying too much on people innate goodness, though. Not because I don't believe in it, but because that effectively rewards the people who are jerks and don't contribute... :/

@Angle @cute_weeds @Laurelai

Yes. There have to be checks to prevent parasitism. My point is not that we should trust everyone, but that you can trust *most* people to want to help.

@woozle @Angle @cute_weeds Also bad logic jobs are going away and they arent coming back and a lot of people are becoming more and more unemployable. We have to stop placing so much value on being able to work.

@Laurelai @Angle @cute_weeds

I've actually been saying this for several years now: we have to stop depending on "employment" as a means of allocating basic goods and services. It's not working anymore.

@woozle @Laurelai @cute_weeds Hey have you seen my comment thread with @sahil? You might find it interesting. It tackles much these same issues. XD

@Angle @Laurelai @cute_weeds @sahil

The one about AI/scarcity? https://witches.town/users/Angle/updates/509468

@woozle @Angle @cute_weeds @sahil http://theconversation.com/will-ai-spell-the-end-of-humanity-the-tech-industry-wants-you-to-think-so-67264